I wrote up a couple of things for the Gnome list because somebody was griping about the docs that came with Balsa (a gnome-based mailer). Each has clips from the file Balsa.sgml, with some comments and modifications. I think that things similar to this would be well suited for the Authors Guide. Now that I've written a couple of sections/articles/chapters, other people will give me ideas of the other guidelines that we need, and/or start writing some themselves. I wrote this up in plain text, because that's the best format for email. If there were to go into out Authors Guide, they should be Docbook-ized. Greg Gregory Leblanc A+ Certified Technician Concordia University http://www.cu-portland.edu Network Support Specialist gleblanc@cu-portland.edu
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- Subject: How to use Whitespace.
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- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:49:16 -0800
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 After finishing my example on tag minimization, I realized that another big part of the reason that the markup wasn't readable was whitespace. The code below looks pretty good in emacs sgml mode, but looks pretty horrible in Outlook (doing work on finding the totally stupid things that MS did so that Miguel can fix them in Evolution). I've slid things over so that they start at the edge of the page, but everything else is the same as Example 3 in my last episode. Almost, everything, I changed the example number, and added a close tag for sect2. EXAMPLE 1 <sect2 id="cfgtab-mail-servers"> <title>Mail Servers</title> <para>This page lets you specify how you get remove POP3 mail, send mail, etc.</para> <variablelist> <varlistentry><term>Remote Mailbox Servers</term><listitem><para>These are POP3 servers that you recieve email from. The three buttons let you create, modify, and remove records. POP3 mailboxes will not show up in the mailbox list.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail Directrory</term><listitem><para>This is the directory that Balsa will scan looking for mail folders.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Remote SMTP Server<term/><listitem><para>If your computer is not equipped with sendmail or you do not wish to use it, select this radio button and enter a hostname to contact via SMTP.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail User Agent</term><listitem><para>Balsa will attempt to use sendmail to send mail. Unfortunately, you cannot specify the command to execute right now.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Check Mail Automatically Every...</term><listitem><para>If selected, Balsa will connect to your POP3 servers at the given interval and check for mail. <note><para>Using "0" as an interval is a <emphasis>really</emphasis> bad idea.</para></para></note></listitem></varlistentry> </variablelist> </sect2> If you take the time to be careful about reading this, it's not bad at all, and quite workable in a highlighting editor. However, this isn't always possible, so below I've made some changes so that its easier to read. EXAMPLE 1 <sect2 id="cfgtab-mail-servers"> <title>Mail Servers</title> <para>This page lets you specify how you get remove POP3 mail, send mail, etc.</para> <variablelist> <varlistentry><term>Remote Mailbox Servers</term> <listitem><para>These are POP3 servers that you recieve email from. The three buttons let you create, modify, and remove records. POP3 mailboxes will not show up in the mailbox list.</para></listitem> </varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail Directrory</term> <listitem><para>This is the directory that Balsa will scan looking for mail folders.</para></listitem> </varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Remote SMTP Server<term/> <listitem><para>If your computer is not equipped with sendmail or you do not wish to use it, select this radio button and enter a hostname to contact via SMTP.</para></listitem> </varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail User Agent</term> <listitem><para>Balsa will attempt to use sendmail to send mail. Unfortunately, you cannot specify the command to execute right now.</para></listitem> </varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Check Mail Automatically Every...</term> <listitem><para>If selected, Balsa will connect to your POP3 servers at the given interval and check for mail. <note><para>Using "0" as an interval is a <emphasis>really</emphasis> bad idea.</para></para> </note></listitem> </varlistentry> </variablelist> </sect2> I couldn't decide which way looked best, so here is a step between the original and where I stopped. There are no lines longer than 80 characters, including whitespace. I have this erie feeling that mail clients and servers are going to mangle this royally. :-/ If it looks like hell, it's not my fault. Anyway, this one is a bit easier to use. Since in these "lists", there is only 1 listitem, it works out ok. For most other circumstances, it probably wouldn't look quite as good. I've got another example below. EXAMPLE 3 <sect2 id="cfgtab-mail-servers"> <title>Mail Servers</title> <para>This page lets you specify how you get remove POP3 mail, send mail, etc.</para> <variablelist> <varlistentry><term>Remote Mailbox Servers</term> <listitem> <para>These are POP3 servers that you recieve email from. The three buttons let you create, modify, and remove records. POP3 mailboxes will not show up in the mailbox list.</para> </listitem> </varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail Directrory</term> <listitem> <para>This is the directory that Balsa will scan looking for mail folders.</para> </listitem> </varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Remote SMTP Server<term/> <listitem> <para>If your computer is not equipped with sendmail or you do not wish to use it, select this radio button and enter a hostname to contact via SMTP.</para> </listitem> </varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail User Agent</term> <listitem> <para>Balsa will attempt to use sendmail to send mail. Unfortunately, you cannot specify the command to execute right now.</para> </listitem> </varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Check Mail Automatically Every...</term> <listitem> <para>If selected, Balsa will connect to your POP3 servers at the given interval and check for mail. <note><para>Using "0" as an interval is a <emphasis>really</emphasis> bad idea.</para></note></para> </listitem> </varlistentry> </variablelist> </sect2> I might actually have been a little over-zealous on my use of whitespace here, but it is pretty clear which elements go where. When I got everything into this last format, I realized that I'd screwed up which end tags I put where and fixed it. Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention, or perhaps I just read the tags wrong in going from </> to </endtag>, but however it happened, I fixed it easiest here. Anyway, enjoy! Greg This message is Copyright (c) 2000 by Gregory Leblanc. 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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tag minimizations should be avoided if at all possible. The advantages of tag minimization are few, and the benefits of NOT using them far outweigh these comforts. Below are three examples, each using a different ammount of tag minimization, followed by a short explanation of what's good/bad about each. I'm not going to make any whitespace changes here, although I'll use the same example SGML for the whitespace example. This first one is stolen from the Balsa.sgml file in Balsa version 0.6.0. EXAMPLE 1 <sect2 id="cfgtab-mail-servers"> <title>Mail Servers</> <para>This page lets you specify how you get remove POP3 mail, send mail, etc.</> <variablelist> <varlistentry><term>Remote Mailbox Servers</><listitem><para>These are POP3 servers that you recieve email from. The three buttons let you create, modify, and remove records. POP3 mailboxes will not show up in the mailbox list.</></></> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail Directrory</><listitem><para>This is the directory that Balsa will scan looking for mail folders.</></></> <varlistentry><term>Remote SMTP Server</><listitem><para>If your computer is not equipped with sendmail or you do not wish to use it, select this radio button and enter a hostname to contact via SMTP.</></></> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail User Agent</><listitem><para>Balsa will attempt to use sendmail to send mail. Unfortunately, you cannot specify the command to execute right now.</></></> <varlistentry><term>Check Mail Automatically Every...</><listitem><para>If selected, Balsa will connect to your POP3 servers at the given interval and check for mail. <note><para>Using "0" as an interval is a <emphasis>really</> bad idea.</></></></></> </> </> As you can see, with a bit of work, it's possible to understand where the elements start and end, but just from looking at this, it's not so obvious. If I open this file in an editor with decent syntax highlighting capabilities (emacs with psgml, others), it's much easier to read, but I still have to count the number of tags that are open and closed. Definately not the best SGML that I've ever seen, but it seems to work (mostly). EXAMPLE 2 <sect2 id="cfgtab-mail-servers"> <title>Mail Servers</> <para>This page lets you specify how you get remove POP3 mail, send mail, etc.</> <variablelist> <varlistentry><term>Remote Mailbox Servers</><listitem><para>These are POP3 servers that you recieve email from. The three buttons let you create, modify, and remove records. POP3 mailboxes will not show up in the mailbox list.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail Directrory</><listitem><para>This is the directory that Balsa will scan looking for mail folders.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Remote SMTP Server</><listitem><para>If your computer is not equipped with sendmail or you do not wish to use it, select this radio button and enter a hostname to contact via SMTP.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail User Agent</><listitem><para>Balsa will attempt to use sendmail to send mail. Unfortunately, you cannot specify the command to execute right now.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Check Mail Automatically Every...</><listitem><para>If selected, Balsa will connect to your POP3 servers at the given interval and check for mail. <note><para>Using "0" as an interval is a <emphasis>really</> bad idea.</para></para></note></listitem></varlistentry> </variablelist> Well, I changed the tags on this one a bit, adding end tags to a lot of elements. I left a few elements without end tags, because they were close enough together to be obvious (only a couple of words in any tag), and all of the other tags were closed. This is a bit easier to read with a syntax highlighting editor, but that's always going to be the case with markup. This one is certainly acceptable, although perhaps not quite ideal. EXAMPLE 3 <sect2 id="cfgtab-mail-servers"> <title>Mail Servers</title> <para>This page lets you specify how you get remove POP3 mail, send mail, etc.</para> <variablelist> <varlistentry><term>Remote Mailbox Servers</term><listitem><para>These are POP3 servers that you recieve email from. The three buttons let you create, modify, and remove records. POP3 mailboxes will not show up in the mailbox list.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail Directrory</term><listitem><para>This is the directory that Balsa will scan looking for mail folders.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Remote SMTP Server<term/><listitem><para>If your computer is not equipped with sendmail or you do not wish to use it, select this radio button and enter a hostname to contact via SMTP.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Local Mail User Agent</term><listitem><para>Balsa will attempt to use sendmail to send mail. Unfortunately, you cannot specify the command to execute right now.</para></listitem></varlistentry> <varlistentry><term>Check Mail Automatically Every...</term><listitem><para>If selected, Balsa will connect to your POP3 servers at the given interval and check for mail. <note><para>Using "0" as an interval is a <emphasis>really</emphasis> bad idea.</para></para></note></listitem></varlistentry> </variablelist> All of the end tags are included in this example. As you can see, the changes between Example 3 and Example 3 are fairly minimal. This is the easiest, and in my opinion, best, form to have DocBook in, with regards to tag minimization. If you're comfortable with using tag minimizations, feel free to use them as in Example 2, but please try to stay away from things like Example 1. I'll send my Whitespace post in another message a little later today. Greg P.S. I'm going to put a license on this, for safe keeping. We'll have to put this together as something nicer for the thing that I'm calling an "authors guide" at some point. First let's get some content, then somebody can put it together. This message is Copyright (c) 2000 by Gregory Leblanc. This message may be reproduced in whole or in part, without fee, subject to the following restrictions: The copyright notice above and this permission notice must be preserved complete on all complete or partial copies Any translation or derived work must be approved by the author in writing before distribution. Small portions may be reproduced as illustrations for reviews or quotes in other works without this permission notice if proper citation is given. Exceptions to these rules may be granted for academic purposes: Write to the author and ask. 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